hello everyone so I've made myself a coffee and I've sat down and I've decided to record a few videos and sort of the new suely unique rubber Oh so I was just thinking my cat was trying to call up one of the chairs but she's just using VM the scratch pole I think the English word is but anyway I decided to record a few videos and this one I'm going to make about the Dutch flap because the Dutch flag has undergone quite a few changes since it was first unveiled in the great rebellion against the Spanish in the latter half of the sixteenth century so as you can see the image that I hope won't crash my computer and has got a flag and it's different in a few ways to the modern Dutch flag and the most obvious one is probably that it's orange now most people will know that the Netherlands is associated with orange and that's going to be important for talking about the flags as well now of course this association with oranges thanks to the Dutch royal family you are the house of orange and we also came from the region of orange in France that there's a whole connection there and obviously also with the color orange and we have this to thank to and William of Orange oars we call them in Dutch villain from our dunya and because of this orange in the Netherlands is seen as a royal color it's also the colour and worn by our football team it's worn by our athletes in the Olympics and you know basically on coning stock owning in a dock and when we celebrate the king queen in the Netherlands then everyone wears orange it's you know it's a big colour if you know anything about the Netherlands you'll know that orange is a big thing and that's thanks to the house of orange and with the flag as well actually the modern rendition of this flag this was it's hard to say it was the official flag because the Dutch flag as it was now only beneficial since 1937 I think looks in berg for example and their flag only became official in 1972 so it's hard to say well this was an official flag for something that was around in around 1600 but it was used back then and day we still sometimes in the Netherlands use this version of the flag with the orange white and blue but we call it the princess lock which means well the prince is flagged because of the Prince of Orange and in the Netherlands in 17th century it's quite an interesting dynamic because at some points the Netherlands was a complete republic other times it was more of a constitutional monarchy even though we didn't have a monarch until 1815 I believe and we had stopped out us or literally translated as City holders and these these were essentially rulers and although they weren't kings they still had to act through various Parliament's and which were in Dutch the faction supporting more of the Democratic the parliamentary Republican system called the staff Zinda or statesman I guess you could translate that as Republicans and you had the supporters of the royal family who were the the orangist and who were called the princes in there or those who supported the prince and quite often it was the middle classes the higher classes and more educated people often quite devoutly Protestant who were more in favor of the Republic of the statuses in there and you had the lower class essentially the plebs and who were the prince was him that he were the supporters of the royal family it's quite interesting because in England at the time in the 1640s you had the civil war which was between Parliament and between the king the Royalists and quite often as well you had that split but there were a lot of different and factors contributing to that and so leading back to the flags the orange on the flag is then a symbol for the royalty so often that's why it's called the print the Prince of loss today because and but it's orange so it's symbolizing the Prince and actually if you look at the old flag of South Africa so the South African flag after they became independent from the British Empire it's an the flag that has orange white and blue and then they have the flags of I think the Iran you flashed up on Tom's file which were the two and Boer Republic's who split away from the British Empire and obviously were later annexed again after the second Boer War and that that flag the often called the apartheid flag because of the era of apartheid when that was the national flag of South Africa the reason that is an orange is because at the time of the Dutch and going to South Africa the Dutch flag was still orange and that's why they held onto the orange rather than having it red white blue like the modern one now in in Dutch it's it's quite funny because we have sort of a nickname for the Prince a flock or for the orange flag which is owed on your blonde your blue which and if you are the speaker you all know it's not exactly correct Dutch and the funny thing is that that actually comes from French because remember I said that part of the royal family was French so you have in French orange blush blue means orange white blue and in Dutch space you know they Holland defied this French to over hang ye blind yeah instead of blond rhymes with around you and then blue just because it's blue so that's a fun little thing about you know that original flag was the orange so why did this flag change to red and when did this happen well it didn't happen overnight and it's quite possible that the red white blue version of the flag has been around just as long as the orange version of the flag and one of the reasons for this is that the red white blue version is often seen as being representative of the county of Holland which if you know about the county of Holland that's essentially before we had the provinces of Holland right now we have North Holland and Zeeland North and South Holland and put the red white blue that was a symbol of the county of Holland as well as having a lion a red line on a golden background which coincidentally is also a symbol of Scotland because of a claim pressed by I think Flora's perforce but anyway that's a story for another time so that's one idea and also another idea is that originally the rebels in the eighty years war or war against the Spanish that they used the red white blue but when they got support from the House of Orange against the Spanish that in honor of him they changed it to orange so it's possible that they were already using the red white blue version and now another reason which I quite like is that possibly the orange dye at the time when left in the Sun for a long time is flagged obviously uh that the orange would fade and become more of a red color so over time the orange flags would change to red flags although I tend to think it would be the other way around that you'd have a red flag it will be in the Sun for a while and it would go to Orange but that's what I read I'm not sure how much truth arisen that I haven't had about thirty years to test out my you know my authentic seventeenth-century princess lock in the Sun so I'm not sure but that's one reason I read now as well I mentioned that the orange white blue version because of its connection to the Dutch royal family is often and was used as something for the princes window for those oranges the Royalists who supported the Dutch royal family but then it makes sense that the red version which is called the star puff lock which means either the nation's flag or the state flag that that would then be used by the more Republican elements by the staff of Endor in opposition to the orange white blue of those who supported the House of Orange the oranges now when did the shift occur because it's pretty evident if you look at the Dutch flag now it's red white blue it's not orange white blue well we tend to think this started to come around about the center the middle of the 17th century around 1650 now if you look at Dutch paintings and it could be quite misleading because as I said the red white blue has been around for a long time and I read as well I'm not sure again how much truth there is in this and I've looked at a few paintings but paintings are difficult because you have to consider both which period they're portraying and when the painter was around because the painter might have been born 200 years later and have no idea what he's painting so he might have been painting something from 1630 and painted a red white blue in reality in 1630 they might have been using an orange white blue flag so it's quite difficult but I did read that the fairness toast India Company and the fairness rest India Company the Dutch East and West India companies that they never used the orange white blue the princess lock they always use the red white blue now this might be because the merchants the traders the the company meant that they were of a different class that they were stabbed because in there or it might be something to do with recognizing each other because as well if you think very important to the Dutch Republic at this time is being recognized at sea because it's easier to see a red and a white and a blue flag at sea than it is to see an orange a white blue flag so maybe that's why they did it although then in contrast the Dutch navy so say the warships who did battle with the English and the French and the Spanish air throughout various sea wars in 17th century that they am pretty much until around 1650 they always used the orange white blue possibly because the Marines the sailors would be from lower classes and they would be more principles in that they'd be more supportive of the Dutch royal family so why was it adopted around 1650 well one reason could again be related to our neighbor to England because around about this time in 1640 s the English Civil War was fought and during the English Civil War the parliamentarians they chose for the color red and often parliamentarian soldiers Cavaliers would and when I'm saying Coverley as I mean horseback troops not Cavaliers which I probably shouldn't have used that term because Cavaliers is often the term used to describe realists but the parliamentarians would often and have read insignias they'd often have read things so that's one reason why the Dutch might try to use red in this period because the Dutch around the Year v 1650 they were a full republic they were completely a republic and around 1650 after the parliamentarian victory so was English this was the only time that England was a republic under the Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell a very Protestant Puritan Republic which the Dutch were as well at this period they were the Dutch were also very Protestant and Republic and as well a reason why it might have shifted from the orange colour is that the Royalists so those supporting Charles's is Charles Stuart they often used orange as their color and the color orange would often be associated with the Stuart's in the Stuart cause who were the enemies of the parliamentarians and therefore that you know the EM any enemy of my friend is my enemy kind of thing the Dutch would be likable let's let's change our flag red so that we can and in solidarity with the English Republic now another thing that changed in the Dutch flag from the first of all the prints of Locke and secondly from this newer flag that was implemented around 1650 with the red white blue it's the shade of blue now if you look at the earlier paintings and things then you see that the earlier Dutch flag of the Dutch Republic and the one that we'd used during the eighty years war that both of these have a lighter shade of blue than the modern one the modern shade of blue is darker and actually if you look at the flag of Luxembourg Luxembourg then the only difference between and Dutch flag of Mayors apart from the ratio is sometimes more stretched is that the the Luxembourg ins lots and Burgers Luxembourg ins Luxembourg Indians I don't know how do you how do you clear if I look some people from Luxembourg in English I'm going to add Luxembourg there sounds cool so the only thing that you notice is that the Luxembourg is flag and is a lighter shade of blue so it's that flag is essentially the same shade of blue as it probably would have been before but then why has the flag of the Netherlands why has their flag and become this darker shade of blue well again it might be down to the fact that and the darker blue is going to be easier to see when you're at sea so if you think of a beautiful Dutch warship so of the paintings of Thomas elder so you've got a nice Dutch flag and on the the very far horizon you've spotted another warship but if it's this very light color of blue and if the sky is also that very light color of do blue because you're very rarely going to have a sky that is the color of the modern Dutch blue in the flag whereas the old Dutch blue and the flag looks maybe a lot more like the sea on a nice day I know it's a bit because then you can argue well at this point they're already using the red so you'd have to be absolutely blind or color blind not to notice the massive bloody red thing and the great big ship but that might be another one of the reasons why they changed the shade of blue or though I'm quite skeptical of this one I don't think that you would you know have to hold philosophy of changing a national flag because the shade of blue might be confused although that again and they changed the confederate flag because it looked too much like a union flag when it was in the wrong wind and things like that so I guess in the heat of battle these things could happen but another reason which i think is more likely is the French now the the Dutch Republic after its golden age in the 17th century has a period of steady decline which I will blame both upon the British and the French thanks very much and and around the turn of the 18th century into the 19th century and republicanism takes root all through Europe and you have a think it was 1792 s at the French Revolution I put all 1798 somewhere around there you have period in the Netherlands where you have a lot of Republicans and and then they're Republicans in the French sense of the Republicans because the the Dutch was technically a republic but you had stop how this after a Tom PR and 1672 so it's all a bit it's all a bit muddled but you had these let's call them extreme publicans and in in the Netherlands and I think that they call them the French Patriots and you have essentially a coup of these Republicans who are obviously going to be aided by the French and essentially you get a period of French rule in the Netherlands from the very last years of the 18th century up until 1830 in 14 when the French are defeated in Europe and one of the one of the things that the French did was to change the name it was no longer the Dutch Republic but but that Republic which is the Batavian Republic in English and they also changed the flag and this is the first time that we see officially that the color has changed to a darker blue now why would they change the color from the lighter blue to darker blue well the darker blue probably has its more similar to the French flag that I would just like to say for everyone and I mean everyone who says when they see a Dutch flag oh it's a French flag but the wrong way around no no it isn't the French flag was taken from the Dutch design that the Dutch were rebelling in 1588 1588 the French adopted that poxy stolen wrongly orientated version of our glorious flag in the 1790s so no the French flag that rag is our flag but the wrong way around I just have to set that straight because that just oh it makes me so mad but anyway all that aside and that might be one of the reasons why they made it darker so it looked more like the French flag although of course as I just said in no uncertain terms the French flag is just a vain attempt at copying the first true Republic flag but that's by the by now why is it stuck around then if the if the obviously the French period of rule and the Netherlands came to an end after Waterloo in 1815 which was at at point thought in the Netherlands because Belgium wouldn't become independent until 1830 so it was fought in that low oh sorry in Flanders but then it stuck around I guess I don't know I'm not really sure why is that the darker blue would have slicker and maybe people people liked it more probably to do with the dye as well I imagined that red dye might be easier to come by than orange dye that would also be a factor and that as well you've got you've got to think as I'm talking in terms as if everyone is strictly used orange the same shaded blue the same shade but even in the early period of the the flags usage as well the there wouldn't be any sort of uniformity to the flags I mean yeah you'd have a dashes anywhere from sort of Vermillion to ochre on the top you'd have a white flash and you'd have a safety blue slash I mean there weren't people go around checking the exact sort of the red green and blue elements of each colour in them I think we shouldn't really see it is here like that so I guess that the different colour of blue might have just been sort of used in accordance of whatever they had and the people until fairly modern times wouldn't really care if their shade of blue was the exact same shade of blue as all the other flags in the country so yeah that's yeah this little discussion video about the just flags and how they've changed quite a lot and I hope you enjoyed it I know it's not my usual style of video but as I said in my previous update my laptop is being very annoying so I've had to make do and I hope this wasn't too dull to rambley to an interesting and pulled for longer so answer which watching I'm through a little bit I'm gonna make a few more beads so season

Author Since: Mar 11, 2019

  1. Note that Peter the Great, who had learned how to build ships in Holland, copied the Dutch flag, for Russia, but re-arranged the color of the stripes. Also, like Holland, the orange stripe became red, while the Russian Army’s cockade and sash colors eventually became orange.

  2. Sadly these days more and more Dutch flags do not use dark cobalt blue but a slightly lighter variant.

    https://isgeschiedenis.nl/nieuws/koningin-wilhelmina-legt-de-kleuren-van-de-nederlandse-vlag-vast

  3. Best wel jammer dat de Prinsenvlag zo besmet is. Ik vind het persoonlijk de mooiste van de 3 omdat die zo uniek is voor Nederland. Het mooiste zou zijn als we beide vlaggen gewoon naast elkaar zouden kunnen gebruiken. bv: mensen die veel waarde hechten aan hun geschiedenis kunnen dan de prinsenvlag gebruiken en mensen die het echt modern willen hebben de gewone rood-wit-blauw. Als nu eens de juiste mensen de Prinsenvlag zouden steunen. Misschien zou het dan ooit lukken om van die vuile NSB smet af te komen en weer met trots naar de vlag van de republiek te kunnen kijken.

  4. Someone calls the Dutch flag a weird french flag.
    Hilbert: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  5. The flag Changed because of the NSB because they used it and the queen at the time won’t the flag anymore

  6. I red that the reason for switching from orange to red was the unstable qualities of the orange dyes used back in 17th century. The dyes were of natural origin and derived from minerals or plant based, and were not stable. Depending on the dye used, the orange on the flag would either fade to yellow or darken to red. This created inconsistency as the flags aged and so, the colour was eventually replaced by red.

  7. "Oranje Vrijstaat" and "Transvaal" were in my opinion separated from the English ruled S. Africa, but in fact the first concentration camps of the British, making the British 'the inventors' of concentration camps. The Purpose was NOT to exterminate, as the German camps in WW2 were to exterminate Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals and Freedom Fighters a.k.a. Resistance, but to CONCENTRATE opponents of the English rule. Giving them the chance, the opportunity, to rule themselves and giving the opportunity to grow crops for feeding themselves. This way it would not cost any money to the British Empire. It is all about money. The same counts for the so-called 'Opium-triangle', set up and organized by the British out of India, in order to gain as much gold as possible by selling the opium to Chinese men, in order to pay the Chinese emperor in order to get trading rights for the English in China. The Dutch had has ONLY western country the right of trading and got a trading post in S. Taiwan, (and still) called 'Fort Hollandia"). Just as the Americas and English are now busy in Afghanistan with protecting their Opium Fields, to be exported to Turkey and from there to be exported and Imported in the US (Florida and Arkansas (?) where Mr. B. Clinton was governor)

  8. We are from the house of orange. We are not from France they are from US Freelant was most of France Germany Denmark We were 6 times the size…. South Africa has the orange white n blue…One thing is for sure We still are the first to have the blue white and red flag.
    These 3 colours tie Us into the true Anglo Hebrews of Moses and Pertra.
    The story is that upon Our Exodus out of Israel in 741BC it was the tribe of Zebulun (Freelant/freislant) were the first to see the error of thier ways and God blessed them to be the first to see the light and awake to wake up the rest of the tribes this is why the Nederlands has stated true blue to Our Identity of Israel.
    See E Raymond Capt strange parallel.

  9. Je zou een video moeten doen over de Nederlandse Leeuw. Ik denk dat mensen graag willen weten waarom ons kleine landje een leeuw heeft als symbool terwijl er hier geen leeuwen zijn!

  10. The blue and red of the french flag is the coat of arms of Paris, and the white stands for the monarchy. Nothing to do with Netherlands

  11. Since the thirties the orange, white, blue has been the flag of the Dutch nazi party of the thirties, the Dutch SS fighting the Russians and the fascist party of Wilders. The Queen Wilhelmina has officially declared the red, white, blue as the official flag.

  12. I wish the flag will be orange with a black lion. Better than this one. It' makes more distinction from other countries. 🙂

  13. The blue could have just changed over time, I know a flag not far from where I live, with a much darker blue. (seriously, it looks more like midnight blue)

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