in that same LA Times article George the writer says Martin just isn't I wasn't going to go to here but you mentioned an F scott Fitzgerald and you know kind of a bobble head for Gatsby Martin transports us back to the halls of power and that's why a song of fire and ice often feels less like a Santa a fantasy saga and more like Doris Kearns Goodwin 's team of rivals how much has history influenced your writing in this series but it's unfortunate usually I mean I history was my minor in college I've always loved reading history particularly medieval history but I also read a lot of ancient history and occasionally other periods it's especially cool to read history about countries and times that I know nothing about rather than the you know the same old stories that we're taught all through high school and college and such but one of the things I wanted to do when I started writing this series was to weld the the the Wonder and and imagination of the the very best fantasy and science fiction with some of the grittiness of historical fiction in addition to history I read a lot of historical fiction and for me it fulfills some of the same stuff of fantasies takes us to another place another time a place where more rays were different and yet in historical fiction there's there's a sense of realism that I found very attractive and I'm a huge Tolkien fan certainly he was a giant influence over me but fantasy in in the hands of the imitators who followed Tolkien I think had kind of lost its way they were they were taking a lot of Tolkien's tropes and just repeating them and they didn't have Tolkien was a real scholar and a linguist and an expert in folklore and ancient languages and he brought all of this considerable learning to it that wasn't true of the token imitators they were taking just a Bordas you know castles and knights and and and Dark Lords and stuff from token and producing this stuff that seemed to be me to be set in that Disneyland Middle Ages are rather than anything approximating the real Middle Ages so so history you know which was huge for me and as I read a lot of history you know is that famous quote that if you steal from one person is plagiarism if you steal from many people as research I I stole from many people reading a lot of history and I would say to my wife as I read some of these histories you can't make this stuff up listen to what happened here and I'd read some incredible incident and then you know I if I lost the serial numbers and change a few things and do a version of that from my books so something like the red wedding as I've said in other interviews was very much inspired by the black dinner of Scotland and the Glencoe massacre both from Scotland Scotland has a lot of incredibly bloody history which is a particularly particularly good of course the word of roses was a huge influence over everything the Hundred Years War all of that was was grist for the mill so in addition to historical references do you believe do you also think of Song of Ice and Fire as it's kind of relating to current does it function not only as historical reference in some ways but political allegory right in the way that your work deals with issues you know Warren piece family loyalties or national divisions how do you you know and there is a long history of science fiction and fantasy functioning is sort of historical allegory political allegory do you do you think your work functions in that way well I think some of that is probably there but it's not necessarily there deliberately I think you're obviously your influence as a writer by the world you live in and the things you see on the news and and the forces that have shaped you from your childhood to that all of that goes and it comes out in some ways but I'm not writing conscious allegory cocaine was accused of that of course it always made him very angry because he hated allegory but you know when people said well the Lord of rings as an allegory for world war two he ejected it vehemently but there's no doubt that I think some of that some of that is there some of this is just universal concerns I mean I'm writing about power I'm writing about governance I'm reading about war yes there are differences but the things that are true about the war in Iraq are also true about Caesar's invasion of Gaul and and Alexander's conquests of Persia there are certain universals that that they go through history and those are inevitably present

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  1. Whitest crowd ever! GOT has a very I diverse fanbase. I'd love to see him do one of these interviews at the Apollo theatre.

  2. This is my biggest problem with this hack. His work is basically dervative inaccurate historical fan-fic with imps, dragons and fire magic. I find it poorly written prolix, but that is besides the point. This uppity screen writer takes work from real historians, history is also my discipline, for which real research is required, sources have to be meticulous and arguments logically reasoned and defended. Subsequently after a lot of thought, research and writing this work, while copyrighted by the author, can and hopefully should be used in subsequent research and synthesis because that is how the historical sciences work.

    Now comes along Mr. Minor is history who reads some synthesis on war of the roses and with no extreme effort or originality, changes the names, places and puts in some mythological nonsense. And for all that lazy copy/paste work, he is granted ownership over the whole potential hypothetical world that he just stole.

    That is stupid enough, but what really should get on your tits, is that this fat lazy fuck subsequently actively speaks out against people who actually want to build upon said potential world. This asshole is writing historical fan-fic, but puts down real fan-fic. GRRM is a fucking hypocrite and a thief.

    Luckily the show is infinitely better than his prolix ridden nonsense.

  3. George is a genius, but he either vastly overestimates his fan-base's willingness to wait, or he prefers the posthumous accolades. At some point, modern-day fans will just turn their back on the story-lines out of frustration, and move onto other things. Now, that's not to say that when GRRM wraps this thing up, and ties up all the lose-ends (in 10-20 years), it won't find its way to massive critical acclaim, likely after his death. And, I believe that's his (either) conscious or subconscious goal. He doesn't give a shit about putting a bow on the story, or even meeting any agreed upon deadlines. Like Tywin Lannister (one of his favorite characters), he's all about "creating a legacy that could last 1,000 years".

    He idolizes Tolkien, who gained much of his accolades long after his death. Most novelists, poets, etc. are seeking something greater than fame – IMMORTALITY. I think of GRRM as a combination of Tywin and Samuel Tarly. I also believe that he views the film side his brand as a necessary burden. One that he endures for the immediate recognition, fame, and money. But, he's much more concerned with the long-term recognition that the viewership establishes. He consistently (and purposely) misses deadlines, because 1) He can, and 2) He's ultimately playing the long-game to meet his long-term goals. He's placed all of his chips on "immortality". His intelligence, plus his ego will get him exactly what he wants. So long as he continues to withhold the most critical climaxes from his devoted fans.

  4. I love historical fiction and fantasy so when I see the parallels I get really excited. I wish there was more of George's kind of fantasy out there.

  5. Modern politics in Game of Throne?
    Yuge Wall protects Westeros for about thousand of years.

  6. Any other person would love to spend hours with GRRM and that lady over there seems pretty annoyed. 🤦‍♀️

  7. 0:05 Feminist Interviewer: What time is it? Oh, five to leave this misogynist rape-worshipper writer, huh…

  8. That's why I like game of thrones it's connected to history. The mad king was mad his name rattling him out Nero was crazy according to historians. Just dig and there is a lot of parallels and connections to world history.

  9. There he is again. Doing panel interviews and not writing books
    Took him 9 years to write books 1-4.
    Is taking him 9 years to write book 6

  10. When I was reading Book II of the Histories by the Roman historian Tacitus, I came across this gem:

    "In his private ambitions a man may feel his way and take less or more from fortune's hand according as he feels inclined, but when one covets a throne, there is no alternative between the zenith of success and headlong ruin."

    I thought it was striking how closely that mirrored Cersei's famous advice to Ned. Maybe Martin has read Tacitus, or maybe not, but I think it goes to show how good a grasp Martin has on how history works.

  11. George nailed the question about his writings coincidentally having connections to broadly-applicable allegories. That woman was trying to push him into a corner of having to accept that his work is analogous to contemporary political events and George was like "fuck off dumb bitch." It's moments like these when I remember that the mind driving the wit of characters like Tyrion, Tywin Littlefinger and Cersei is real and incarnate.

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